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Indian Companies Increasingly Turn To Chinese LLMs Due To "Unsustainable" US Token Bills

Zero Rss
2 months 3 weeks ago
Indian Companies Increasingly Turn To Chinese LLMs Due To "Unsustainable" US Token Bills

Several weeks ago we laid out the increasingly attractive proposition for global enterprises that are Chinese LLM: 95% of the latest US frontier model capabilities and 10% of the cost. Why pay the premium, when one way or another someone will steal your IP, be it Dario Amodei or Beijing? India, it appears, agrees. 

According to the NIkkei, Indian companies are increasingly leaning on Chinese large language models - developed by DeepSeek, Alibaba and Moonshot AI (the same LLMs which we said recently are poised to overtake US models as the best "value proposition", and profiled here) - to contain their artificial intelligence spends, in the process extending India's reliance on China for cutting-edge technologies despite a long history of standoffs between the neighbors.

A schematic of China's AI/Hyperscaler ecosystem is shown below (excerpted from here).

Puneet Kumar, CEO at Mirae Asset Venture Investments India, said that several consumer technology startups that he has met since mid-2025 use such Chinese open-weight LLMs -- those that rely on publicly accessible parameters -- which help drive down costs by an "order of magnitude."

Because these parameters are publicly available, users can download and modify them on their own computers, in contrast to the proprietary offerings by US frontier labs such as OpenAI and Anthropic. The Chinese open-weight LLMs can be accessed in India through service providers such as Microsoft at a fraction of the price of their American counterparts, thanks to their low cost of development. And thanks to reverse engineering distillation, Chinese models have almost caught up with US frontier models in terms of capabilities.

Source: UBS

"The US models are expensive, and for a lot of basic things, you don't need them," Gupta said. "It's overkill, like trying to drive a sports car on a crowded city road."

For the DeepSeek models that Microsoft makes available in southern India through its Foundry platform, charges range between 19 cents and $1.74 per million input tokens, while the price per 1 million output tokens varies from 51 cents to $5.40. Input costs for Moonshot's Kimi go up to 95 cents and output costs up to $4.

In comparison, input costs for OpenAI's GPT 5.5 series range from $5 to $12 per million input tokens, while output costs hover between $30 and $54.

The adoption of Chinese LLMs comes at a time when the likes of OpenAI and Anthropic are opening offices and expanding their offerings in the South Asian nation. Both OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei showed up at the India AI Summit earlier this year, underscoring the importance of India as a market, thanks to its large number of programmers, who have emerged as by far the most active users of AI. Anthropic has bagged Tata Group-owned airline Air India, software maker Cognizant and payment processor Razorpay as customers, while OpenAI counts India's largest software maker, Tata Consultancy Services, as a client. However, unless their token costs crater, the companies can spend billions on marketing and still nobody will use them. 

The cost pressures driving the soaring popularity of Chinese LLMs in India are mirrored globally, with major companies including Tesla, Amazon, Uber and Walmart capping AI usage to arrest soaring technology spends as focus shifts from indiscriminate usage, called tokenmaxxing, to return on investment. Chinese LLMs are emerging as winners with aggressive pricing, with their usage more than doubling to 25 trillion tokens in the final week of June from the end of May, according to Open Router, a marketplace for AI models. That was 78% more than U.S. models, a sharp reversal in fortunes from the start of the year, when usage was less than half that of their American counterparts.

Companies like Coinbase, DoorDash and Airbnb have publicly said that they have begun using Chinese models.

Vidya Madhavan, founder of Elevation Capital-backed dating app Schmooze, said that possibilities of "substantial" savings, coupled with wider uptake of open-weight LLMs globally and their ability to deliver a satisfactory performance in comparison with their American peers, encouraged her to deploy Alibaba's Qwen models after some initial hesitation. 

"Our approach has been to use solutions from Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, ElevenLabs, etc., to start with, so that we have a sense of what great looks like, and then use a combination of open source plus our tuning to achieve the same outcome and save money wherever applicable," she said.

Apple, which today won approval to use Qwen on its devices in China, clearly agrees. 

Nikhil Narendran, a partner at law firm Trilegal, sees startups and developers as early adopters in India, though larger firms are also deliberating over the deployment of Chinese LLMs.

"The token bills are a serious issue -- it is increasingly becoming unsustainable," he said.

Adding to the appeal of open-weight LLMs is that, by virtue of being locally hosted, data stays in India, Narendran said, although "there might be unverified deployment artifacts such as malware or trojans, which is a concern."

"Unless the token-intensive nature of the US frontier AI models changes, the Chinese are likely to take a significant lead over the Americans," he said. "Since it's mainly the trust factor that goes against them, I am sure Chinese developers understand that risk, and hence are likely to be extra careful."

The incursion of Chinese models into India is raising questions about the South Asian nation's ambitions around AI sovereignty, even as companies such as Sarvam and Gnani build LLMs in Indic languages.

In 2024, India earmarked about 104 billion rupees (about $1.1 billion at current exchange rates) for the technology over a five-year period, but this pales in comparison to China's public investments "running into tens of billions of dollars annually," estimates research firm Bernstein. Moreover, disbursals have been patchy, with actual spending in the fiscal year ending March 2025 totaling 190 million rupees, against an allocation of 5.52 billion rupees, while expenditure for the following fiscal year stood at 3.79 billion rupees, versus an allocation of 20 billion rupees. Government officials have said that disbursals will increase in sync with use of graphics processing units, which have taken time to procure but are crucial to developing AI models.

The risk of being cut off from foreign AI models amid a fragile geopolitical situation has increased the pressure on India to develop its own capabilities. Washington has already prevented Anthropic from giving foreign entities access to its latest models, Fable and Mythos, though the restrictions were lifted late last month. In addition, Reuters reported earlier this week that Beijing is now considering restricting overseas access to advanced Chinese AI models.

Analysts warned that India's dependence on China -- which is also evident in other advanced technologies like electric vehicles and lithium-ion cells -- is risky, given the two nations' recent history of tensions, particularly over a territorial dispute in the Himalayas. In 2020, New Delhi tightened restrictions on Chinese investments after an outbreak of fighting there, although these were eased in March this year.

Sameer Patil, director at the Centre for Security, Strategy and Technology at the Observer Research Foundation think tank, said India's ambitions with sovereign LLMs are restricted to domestic usage, unlike the U.S. and China, which are eyeing global dominance.

"Deepening the dependence on the foreign tech, whether American or Chinese, is a concern because access can be shut down overnight and you will be left in the lurch," Patil said. "Therefore, we have to develop that kind of resilience."

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By Michael Kern of OilPrice.com

Commercial shipping through the Strait of Hormuz is once again off-limits in the near term as the renewed hostilities and threats to vessels led to another spike in risks of transiting the key tanker and container shipping lane, according to Masahiro Okafuji, chair of the Japan Foreign Trade Council.

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“Mariners should expect sustained naval presence, increased IRGC hailing and monitoring along transit routes, and possible diversion of AIS-equipped vessels to the northern Iranian-controlled route. Enhanced force protection measures, increased VHF hailing, and congestion near anchorage areas should also be anticipated.”

Japan, meanwhile, has been scrambling for alternative oil supply in recent months as its key import route, the Strait of Hormuz, was blocked.

Before the Iran war, Japan and its refiners relied on the Middle East for a massive 95% of all crude imports. But the shock loss of supply forced refiners to seek alternatives and the government to release oil from strategic reserves to offset the lack of supply through the Strait of Hormuz.

Japan in April imported the lowest volume of crude oil from the Middle East on record dating back to 1979 as the Iran war and the closure of the Strait of Hormuz choked supply from the region.

The oil stocks release, Japan’s biggest ever, has helped refiners increase throughput in recent weeks. So has alternative supply from producers outside the Middle East, including the United States, as well as rare cargoes from Azerbaijan and Latin America.

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Amy Coney Barrett Warns Of Escalating Death Threats Against Supreme Court

It's sad to say, but the truth must be acknowledged - Mob violence and threats of political assassination can often be effective in influencing the policy decisions of courts and governments.  It's the reason why the militant left has consistently used these methods over the course of generations.  It works, and they know it.

It's not that political violence and terrorism produce direct results.  Rather, these actions tent to produce indirect effects by sowing the seeds of fear in the minds of people in the middle - People who are not particularly dedicated to conservative or nationalist causes.  They just want to do their jobs and go home to their families; they have never before considered the possibility that doing their jobs could lead to horrific consequences.  

There have been numerous failed assassination attempts against Donald Trump.  An almost successful attempt on the life of Republican Rep. Steve Scalise by a Bernie Sanders supporter.  A foiled assassination plot against conservative Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh by a leftist seeking to change the balance of the court.  And finally, the successful assassination of conservative speaker and head of TPUSA, Charlie Kirk.  All the evidence points to a radical leftist by the name of Tyler Robinson, who confessed to his own parents and his gay partner that he committed the crime. 

Beyond these cases, there has been a steady stream of threats made against conservative politicians and SCOTUS judges.  Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who used to vote predominantly conservative in her decisions, recently detailed the many threats made against her and her family since the Dobbs v Jackson case which ultimately overturned Roe v Wade and made abortion a states issue instead of a federal issue. 

Justice Amy Coney Barrett details threats she and her family have faced: “I didn't expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was and why I had to wear one.” pic.twitter.com/aph9X4mfEm

— TheBlaze (@theblaze) July 14, 2026

Barrett mentions the growing number of threats made against her in the wake of the Dobbs leak, as well as being required to wear a bulletproof vest and having her family home swatted.  These kinds of intimidation tactics are grotesque, yes, but if we examine Barrett's voting record after Dobbs it becomes increasingly clear that the threats are working.

This revelation helps to explain why Barrett has recently turned against obvious decisions on such issues as birthright citizenship and mail-in ballots.  She is most likely afraid and trying to mitigate the rage of activist freaks.

Barrett told a House subcommittee on Tuesday that “the threat level” against her and other federal judges “is really high” as she testified about the high court’s 2027 budget request. 

“Those statistics sound abstract, but being on the receiving end of them is not,” Barrett told the House Appropriations subcommittee on financial services and general government, before she shared several anecdotes about threats affecting her and her family. 

The Supreme Court is asking Congress to appropriate $228.4 million for fiscal 2027, a nearly 10% rise since the $207.8 million appropriated for 2026. The increase reflects higher spending on security-related measures, both for the protection of justices and for cybersecurity    

Perhaps more disconcerting than the constant threats is the fact that leftist movements largely dodge the blame for these events when they do happen, which makes it more difficult for exposed figures to do their jobs.  If leftist movements are not called out for their involvement, then the problem will never go away.  Activists are free to continue their campaign of terror. 

Until recently, groups like Antifa were not even treated as real by the government or the media.  If a terrorist organization is not technically "real", then they can't be investigated or prosecuted.   

After nearly every assassination attempt, whether the attackers succeed or not, the propaganda machine floods social media with conspiracy theories scapegoating anyone other than radical progressives.  This is a highly organized psy-op designed to disable conservative anger by sowing seeds of doubt.  Leftist ideology and the groups that promote it always seem to escape culpability. 

Right leaning judges facing potential assassination see this trend; they know that if they are attacked or killed, the spin agents will slither out from under their rocks and turn them into the bad guys.  Even if they survive, they will be accused of "staging" the incident.  The incentive to stand by their convictions diminishes. 

Furthermore, less and less people near the center will feel compelled to seek offices of authority, because they know they will be immediately added to the hit list if they deviate at all from woke demands.  At bottom, if Amy Coney Barrett is compromised by fear, then she should step down from her position.  Even though the viciousness of the discourse is not her fault, she needs to be replaced by someone who can handle the heat. 

It should be noted that the aggressive and unhinged nature of the left-wing will, in the end, result in the most hardcore right-wingers moving to the top.  This is the last thing the progressives should want.  With the center-right, they still might find an empathetic ear; but with hardened conservatives in power - men who are fed up with compromise - leftists are unlikely to find fairness or compassion for their causes.

The more violent the political left becomes, the more callous conservatives will become.  Until, one day, progressives will be hit with a freight train of retribution, and no one will care.    

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